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So there hasn't been any actual people who mess with thier ECU so I'll speak out. I've been using OpenECU, EvoScan and ECUflash for my Evolution 8 for the past 2 years. My car's ECU is flash based so I have to download a ROM image of the settings of the ECU, edit externally using ECUFlash and the reimported back into the ECU. Now I mainly just adjust Timing, Air to Fuel ratio and Fuel Injector scaling. You can call this 'hacking' because I'm specifically changing parameters to ECU settings and just Flashing them over, overriding the car's stock parameters. Now what happens mostly in worst possible case scenario when something goes wrong from tampering the ECU?

• Car doesn't start • Car starts but runs poorly • Car Runs fine but under Wide Open Throttle, will either run like shit or will run like your wildest dreams but will then cause mechanical failure to your engine aka blowing your engine up. It's not going to cause your car to act retarded and steer you into a bunch of cows. It's simply going to shut down.

Like I stated before I've been street-tuning my car for nearly 2 years with no faults. The worst I've experienced is my car sputtering at wide open throttle, which at the time I let off the gas and drove my car normally. The tune I have in my car now actually gave my car WAYYYYY better gas mileage with a bigger turbo, I get about 28mpg (and like 4mpg when I'm on full boost lol).

I did my research before touching it. And thanks to these BRAVE TUNERS. I'm able to safely make changes to my car's ECU, I was able to learn what Stoichiometry was about. I was able to enhance my car's performance whether for faster speed or better gas mileage, shit even driving normally my carbon stamp is WAY better than alot of cars (When I'm not in full boost lol). All on my own, some average consumer. So I agree, it should NOT be illegal to hack my cars computer. And If it is to be made Illegal, I'll still get away with it with my car because I still have the stock image I can just reflash back into my car.

BAM my car is back to stock with a simple click and save as. ITT: People who have absolutely no understanding of what modding an ECU accomplishes. This isn't about disabling safety features or anything like that, this is about changing things like your air/fuel mixture, or engine timing, to cope with hardware modifications (i.e. Changing your air intake or exhaust to something less restrictive and more efficient). There are professionals that do this stuff, if you've ever heard of a tuning shop, that's what they do. Making something like this illegal is as dumb as making it illegal for the guys down at your local mechanic to change your tire because they might fuck it up and cause you to get into an accident.

If someone manages to get into an accident specifically because they modified their ECU in some grossly incompetent way then sure, they should be held liable just like anyone would normally for botching a standard mechanical repair. Also, this isn't even a safety issue, it's a fucking copyright issue. Isn't Reddit usually against DRM? Wake up and realize this is just corporations being greedy. If you want to be against something for being dangerous, try doing it against something that's actually a problem in the first place.

Nobody's getting into accidents because they flashed a shitty tune. Edit: Holy shit, this is the first comment I've ever gotten gold on. I'd like to thank the academy, the anonymous redditor that gifted it to me, and the internet for giving me basic knowledge of how an automobile works. No kidding, ecu mods have been around since day one.

Before that people would manually 'hack' their engine controls, adjust timing etc. There are tons of companies that exist solely to modify ecu, hell APR keeps factory warranty. The worst that can happen is that you fuck up and grenade your engine. People need to be wayyyyyy more worried about shady mechanics and home mechanics than someone tinkering with their ecu.

Ecu stands for engine control unit and controls the engine, not brakes and steering. This thread is full of people with out understanding but full of opinion and that's dangerous. People have been tuning their cars and 'havking' them since the beginning. You are a complete fucking idiot if you think this is any different than what your parents or grandparents did.

People keep saying car culture is dying, it's things like this and people being so dumb that keeps putting more nails in the coffin. It's like we've all be so fear mongered we can't trust ourselves to do ANYTHING anymore without a government agency paid for by corporations to protect us. And that IS what this is about. Greedy corporations who want to make it harder for you do anything for yourself.