Hello, first post, hopefully someone can help me. I am trying to discover the make of a Jon boat I just bought, used. The previous owner had used an electric trolling motor on it but never registered it. I bought it with a bill of sale, but he did not know the make or model. There is no hull id tag on it, just a small tag on the front.

But i need the make and year to pay my sales tax so i can get it registered. Any help would be amazing, because unless I can figure out the make I don't think I will be able to register it. Pics are below Thanks a head of time. The boat looks new enough to have a HIN, which will be embossed, stamped or engraved into the upper right hand corner of the transom. The Transformation Of The Inner Man Pdflatex on this page.

The first three letters of the HIN will be the manufactures prefix code. This will tell you who built it.

If it doesn't have a HIN, the state it was last registered in will have assigned a HIN, along with a registration number (MS something in Mass). This number can lead you to the last registered previous owner (who still owns it, unless you've preformed a title transfer), which will have a title associated with it and the manufacture may be listed on it. The boat has a surprising capacity plate, suggesting somethings not right.

A 3.5 HP rating, on a boat that could easily handle a 20 HP outboard suggests someone is trying to beat a rule or minimum HP law. What else I find suspicious, is all boats in the USA will have an affixed HIN, if built after the fall of 1973. It also appears this boat has had it's registration numbers removed.

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Even if it was built before 1973, it would still have a registration number on it flanks. Simply put, the boat looks newer then a 1973 and coupled with the lack of registration number means it'll be a real pain in the butt to get a registration or title for (you can preform a title search and file an abandoned vessel claim).

The local sheriff or Harbor Patrol will assumed someone is trying to apply for different registration numbers or that it's stolen. Being cops at heart, they'll assume (correctly so most of the time) that it's stolen. Guess who gets dragged down to the police station. This sort of thing happens all the time by folks that haven't much experience with boat registration processes. If you want to be safe, ask for a title and registration for the boat. If you get anything other then 'sure, here they are' walk away.

My understanding of MA boat registration requirements is all motorized boats, except USCG documented, must be registered, unless it's a visiting boat (out of state registry). Lastly, if the previous owner never registered the boat, he still had to do a title transfer. One usually goes hand in hand with the other, so someone is blowing smoke up someone's butt. It's very possible the previous owner doesn't actually own the boat, because it's still registered in the name of someone else.

The formula the USCG will use will permit (my assumption of size, based on the photos) at least a 15, likely more. I often don't agree with these maximum USCG recommendations, but... A trolling motor equipped jon boat in Mass, still needs to be registered, so where's the registration? This is the fishy part. I see boats like this frequently, where someone thinks they can remove the registration and HIN numbers and re-registry it.

It's just a great way to get put up on 2rd degree fraud charges (a felony) or worse. Is there any guarantee that boat was built after 1973?

It looks pretty weathered and well-used, and I don't see a bright spot where anything was removed from the transom. Or any indication that the capacity tag is any newer than the rest of the boat. I don't know how things are on the east coast, but out here I wouldn't be at all surprised to run into an old aluminum Jon boat that's been flying under the legal radar for thirty or forty years. The California DMV says boats propelled by oars or paddles (and presumably poles.) don't have to be registered, regardless of size. So as long as the owners stayed away from the waters where tourists like to blast around drunk and the law likes to catch them at it, it's a pretty safe bet no one would ever have noticed (or cared) that they were fishing the backwaters using an unregistered boat with a trolling motor on it. Obviously I'm not familiar with laws back east, much less with the boat under discussion. I'm just playing Devil's advocate.

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